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March 05, 2005

This is why we need coporeal punishment in schools

As most of you know, Steffi the Doublewide Bitch Supreme™ is a poor-excuse for a teacher.  As such, she's had to deal with her share of miscreants and malcontents.  Unfortunately, due to the fact that this society worships at the Altar Of The God Of Self-Esteem™, her options for dealing with such crumb-crunching types is, shall we say, quite limited.  One of the few conditions with which Her Son's Father  (lest she forget) does truly sympathize.

Anyway, the Department of Isn't That A Wee Bit Of Overkill? runs this up our flagpole, leaving His Rudeness shaking his head and wondering what ever happened to a good whack upside the noggin.

James City County Police arrested an eight-year-old boy who allegedly had a violent outburst in school.

Authorities say he head-butted his teacher and kicked an assistant principal when he was told he couldn't go outside to play with other students.

Now, this would put said tyke somewhere in the neighborhood of second grade.  And an adult teacher and an adult assistant principal couldn't handle him (snicker), so they had to call the police.

The four-foot pupil was led away from Williamsburg's Rawls Byrd Elementary School in handcuffs Tuesday and charged with disorderly conduct and assault and battery.

I think it's a damned shame that Fox News wasn't there to videotape that perp walk.  I mean, wouldn't you have loved to have been there to see that? (chuckle)

Major Stan Stout says the student began tossing chairs and turning over desks after a teacher - and later the assistant principal - tried to stop him from joining his classmates.

The child was later released to his parents.

Who, if this kid's behavior is any indication, promptly took him out for an ice cream sundae and a cheeseburger to soothe his injured psyche.  Because I guaran-damn-tee you - if that little punk were being properly  disciplined, said tantrum wouldn't have happened in the first place.

As it is, he'll make a nice little Democrat some day...

Posted by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant at March 5, 2005 12:39 PM

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There's a very good reason that those 2 adults couldn't handle him and had to call the police. They would have found themselves and the school district in court so fast their heads would have been spinning for a week. They probably couldn't even put him some sort of hold until he calmed down (which would have probably been enough).

I feel sorry for the kid. He has learned (thanks, loving parents!) that he can get his way by force or temper tantrum. Yeah, you're right... he'll make a great Democrat some day.

Posted by: Beth at March 5, 2005 03:06 PM

You are correct sir! Proper discipline would do wonders for a lot of kids. I'm proud to say niether of mine would even think of acting this. They know where the line is and what happens when it's crossed. Yes, they have and sometimes do cross it but never like this and absolutely never in public. Say what you mean, do what you say! I make no threat, just promises, and they know it. They are good kids because of it!

Posted by: maxxdog at March 5, 2005 04:13 PM

Too many parents also try to psychoanalyze their kids' misbehaviors. Thanks, Dr. Spock.

All this kid needs is an old fashioned spanking (or a few of them) Simple-negative consequences for negative behavior. Worked for all 4 of us; works for my child. (who hardly ever misbehaves, and we get a lot of compliments on how well-behaved he is)

Trust me, child psychobabblers out there- my child definitely has very good self esteem and is quite a happy little boy.

Posted by: mrs heather at March 5, 2005 07:13 PM

This kid is well beyond spanking.
Frontal Lobotomy maybe (heck, do the parents too).

Does anyone have any solid evidence that this type of child has ever grown up to be anything but an oxygen thief that either beats people up, or has a number of lawyers at his call to sue for anything from hot coffee to bubblegum on a sidewalk?

He's probably a school bully to boot. For that, I hope one of his victims kills the ****er.

Posted by: JonB at March 6, 2005 11:19 AM

I'd have to say my son did. He was diagnosed with "conduct disorder" which is a form of ADD that you supposedly don't grow out of. When he was in grade school, he kicked the crap out of his teacher, and threw books around the room. I was notified that the principal and teacher wanted to have a meeting with me, and when I arrived, they wanted to know what they could do about it. I told them I'd take care of it. And I did. He never acted like that in class again. And if this kid's parents would "take care of it", he'd stop acting like a babboon as well.

Posted by: Denise at March 7, 2005 05:08 AM

I'm coming to the conclusion that "ADD" is just an excuse for bad parenting.

I believe Neil Boortz came up with the following idea:

You take a kid who supposedly has "ADD" and plant him in front of a TV hooked up with a Playstation 2 and 99% of the time his/her "ADD" will magically disappear.

The other 1% will exibit "ADD" because he/she didn't like that particular video game.

I'm inclined to agree with him.

At any rate, It would be a good test.....

Posted by: Elephant Man at March 7, 2005 10:45 AM

(Now I'm assuming you mean "corporeal punishment", not "coporeal punishment". I could be wrong, however, but at school I never seemed to learn what the word "coporeal" meant: must be those damn democrats again, not teaching our kids the meaning of non-existant words.)

It is true we need more corporeal punishment in schools, far too much punishment nowadays seems to be of the non-corporeal form. Non-corporeal punishment is far too wishy-washy and innefective: if children are punished non-corporeally they might start to do other things non-corporeally like washing up and hair-drying and who knows where we'd be then, when all our children start doing things 'in spirit only'. I'm sure they'll make good Democrats: All those non-corporeal things like "intensions", but no bodily action to back it all up.

Sorry, but a post on education by a Republican on "coporeal punishment" was just way too good to pass up.

Your-with-tongue-in-cheek,

A LibDem student who grew up just fine without corporal punishment.

Posted by: Daniel at June 3, 2005 03:31 PM

Just a note to Miss LibDem; I have mixed feelings on physical punishment for children. Certainly, any parent that takes any delight in it is sadistic at best. And hitting a child in anger is never a good idea. But as a father of two children there were rare occasions where all of forms of other "discipline" just didn't work. Removal of privileges, being sent to a room, "time-outs" and a host of other methods just weren't working. After a talk with my 7 year old boy informing him of the cold consequences of a particular behaviour, the calculated and emotionless spanking did finally change his action. I didn't enjoy it at all and I could easily see his feelings were hurt. But the fact remains children need to learn there will be real-world consequences when they grow up and some of those consequences are rather brutal compared to an occasional, calculated spanking. I'd rather have my child angry with me because he was spanked than have him grow up thinking he can act outside boundaries without consequences and end up in prison, or even worse, perhaps the electric chair. Certainly those are extreme consequences and I think abusive spankings or beatings bring far more harm than good. Still, the premeditated sharing of the consequence with my son and the ensuing dispensing of that consequence ended up being the only effective tool in changing his behaviour. As I recall, I never had to do that again. Lastly, Miss LibDem should be careful about mocking anyone especially when it comes to grammatical or spelling "errors. As it turns out, "corporeal" and "corporal" are both accepted usages of the word, both meaning "physical". Consider your haughty and condescending tone challenged. I, for one, did not appreciate it in an open forum.

Posted by: Terry at March 5, 2006 11:15 PM

I don't know about the current policies in grade schools about corporeal punishment, However I do feel that canning is certainly an acceptable process for controlling our smart-ass uncontrolled youth. I remember well being hauled into the cloakroom and getting my hands swatted with a ruler for being a bit too communicative. No goody two shoes was I.
Why not use this for those who refuse to respect others? It just might keep some of those future prison inmates.....out.

Posted by: Richard McBride at April 18, 2006 10:07 AM